She is now trying to tell us that William went missing at exactly the same time as father was pulling up in his car. Then heard nothing. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. And, if you didn't care great. It would be interesting to note where and when it ("just") crops up in her statements and if the same topics elicit the use of "just", or is it "just" random? His status as a foster child wasn't even confirmed to the public until three. The most reliable neighbor (I've read that he is retired law enforcement) was in his hot tub room and reported seeing a female in a white shirt and grey sweatpants walking past his house at 0630 holding a paper up to the sky. Why have they been labelled by some as vigilantes? Pronouns are instinctive and we do not make mistakes with them. Was she screaming, did she look worried etc.., those are things which should be etched in his memory.then I [immediately got out of the car] He feels a need to tell us he got out of his car immediately which is not necessary, in fact to tell us he got out of his car at all is not necessary. William's foster parents have both vehemently denied any involvement in his disappearance. And then (again, there is possibly missing information here) I thought oh I havent heard him, I better go check on him and I cant find him.. I watched the first few minutes till I realised that this documentary was based upon William being taken by Bigfoot. I thought this was all meant to convince the listener that (1) someone must have snatched William away because he wouldnt go willingly; and (2) the foster parents could not have been negligent in this scenario because William always stayed close. And, theyre amazing, and, um, several Mono County Sheriffs and, I see all your faces popping up and it makes me want to cry, I love you guys! He may never stop hurting," the statement read. A Supreme Court justice allowed his foster care status to be revealed in August 2017, in what had been an open secret to those who had followed the case for years prior. I just want to help find her. And when she called me she said she was sorry, I was with friends, I'm sorry, can you please just come get me? Realizing just in time she shouldnt give such details she quickly switched to Nanna and her daughter/other child (this switch may have also caused her to say other-> as in: other than William). In 2016, despite the foster parents' and FACS' argument against it, the NSW Supreme Court granted Ms Smith's application to reveal William as a fostered child at the time of his disappearance. Adrian. June 14 - William's grandmother scolds police who have failed to find the young boy after four years, and claims their latest search is 'just for show'. - We love our guns, land, rights, and freedom. What is the relevancy of this in this context? In a statement released on Thursday, NSW police said the woman was charged with knowingly giving false or misleading evidence. We don't know who's got him. OT-Karlie GuseMelissa Guse Facebook Live #1 October 13, 2018 @4:30 p.m.(Breathless, gulping water) My name is Melissa Guse, um, if youre gunna to watch this video, please do not have the kids around. She's high on marijuana why would I, I just, it didn't cross my mind. She now realises that taking her to the hospital could have saved her and it is playing on her mind.There are a number of telling body language signs in the video and also I noticed at sensitive areas in her story the speed of her speech greatly increases as she wants to get through them as quickly as possible.Adrian. We've walked up and down Benaroon Drive and we can't find him.Its hard to make head or tail of the beginning (I dont know accuracy of transcript). The mind always looks to move blame onto others, it is a built in defence mechanism to protect itself. As Mark McClish said it can be used to suggest thats all I did when making a statement. But only if she has something to hide.Adrian. Roaring, as a descriptor, is not typically used in the States unless referring to a large mass of moving water, lions/big cats, large groups of people, or storms/wind. In the initial stage, it didnt even occur to me that those cars werent there.Yes all very negative language. William Tyrell Foster Parents Charged with Common Assault I will post that too (its much shorter) and would like to hear your (and anyone elses) thoughts. Did the authorities fly over Karlies location and did that make her nervous? was . Was he ever even there? Maybe she meant to say: the authorities did all this effort and still Karlie is not found, so now I take matters into my own hands. That's not something a foster parent wants on their record.The foster mother mentions "my other daughter" although it has been reported that he was playing with a sister in the yard that day. The operator didnt ask where she was and what she was doing. And, Im putting this out there because, um, it's going on 10 hours that shes been missing and I want to put this on blast because I dont think shes out in the desert.Ingratiation (Vernal kunz)Praising SAR LE for not finding her (Vernal kunz)I dont think shes out in the desert.Hmm?? I do think she is crazy (BPD?) The interesting word here is other. He had been playing at his foster grandmother's house with his sister, and was wearing a Spider-Man suit at the time of his disappearance. It is the only misspelling in the document which is interesting and as most people check through what they have written before posting it stands out.What strikes me most about the message is that Melissa is suggesting a crime (lawbreakers) has been committed and that Karlie may never come home what if she never comes home?. There may be a reason she is not directly mentioning this. This is a general question-is there a forum where other statements from cases can be analyzed by everyone? This extra person has been mentioned once [other daughter] in the emergency call and then never spoken of again.In the emergency call the use of other daughter stands out, because for her to introduce a second daughter we need her to have introduced a first one earlier in her statement, but she didnt. So we ask who and where is the [other daughter] she introduced in the emergency call. Similarity with William's mother saying "he hit his head". It might not be important to the listener what size the piece of cake was, but to them it is. A years-long investigation into Tyrrells disappearance which included digging up key sites in the town he was last seen in at the end of last year continues. The foster mother allegedly made the drive in her mother's car before her husband had returned to the house to join the search for William. There may have been an actual second/third car after all. The foster father had driven off that morning in the family's new 2014 model grey green Land Rover Discovery to get a prescription filled at Lakewood, 8km away, and hold an online business conference via the GoToMeeting conference app. Who cares what she did? She actually more or less insisted that he climb a tree even though he had indicated that it was too high and he wanted to get out. She can see the top of his head. If they had not seen anything they would tell you exactly that sorry I didnt see anything. William Tyrrell: Missing boy's doomed life before 'handpicked' for care The foster family feared that the knowledge William was fostered would lead to their unmasking. I mainly just observe because you guys are all so advanced with your crime-solving. Heartbroken Natalie Collins, 57, yesterday revealed her son Brendan Collins' criminal past, drinking problems and rows with William's mother Karlie Tyrrell. Already getting in the party mood! Maybe that's where Karlie is (in every lie there is some truth). This brings to mind the important lesson of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf".A friend said her father taught her at a very young age that if she ever screamed, he would run to her immediately to see if she was OK.He also told her that if she ever screamed and there was not an emergency, she would be in trouble. June 12 - NSW Police announce the start of a four-week forensic search of bushland conducted by Strike Force Rosann. Who is Karlie to Melissa?-Shes been missing since 6:30 am. Would they walk over and ask to part his hair? But also it could represent that other things were done. I know being somewhere out there is a normal expression in English but I wanted to mention this for completeness sake.Autumn, OT: Karlie GuseUm, you cant do an Amber Alert because she didnt leave in a car and I dont have a physical description of a vehicle.If Karlie didnt leave in a car, why did the stepmother have to add that she didnt have a physical description of a vehicle (is that standard Amber Alert language?). on the left hand side youll see a freckle on the top of his head. And she repeats it, making that important to her. -- consider taken together is a pause. "Life will never be the same again, living without answers makes things so much harder. She returns to using the pronoun we, which is often an attempt to share guilt or responsibility. CINDY ANTHONY: I know. I downloaded it and played it back in windows media classic as it has the ability to move a video frame by frame which is good for looking at micro expressions. The second reason she gives for abduction is it happens which I dont think we can class as reason, a lot of things happen right? If that someone else is Williams sister (her daughter) and she is talking to her mother and [other daughter], in her mind she has introduced one daughter by making the statement we were. That is a long time, if you start counting out loud from one to three hundred you will get bored quickly and realise just how long that amount of time is.If it took the father five minutes to get out of car and walk to the mother it would place him at the house at the time the mother gives for Williamss disappearance (five minutes ago). Is that more important than asking for help to find Karlie? () Ann Mary Shapely was the first to speak to Williams foster mother: she was upset and saying he has hit his head and cant hear me or hes been taken as he always answers me.Autumn, I just started watching.This morning when I woke up I was thinking about this case, and I had a strong "flash" of "The boy in the box" case. Those trolls some of whom have gone as far to travel to Taree for two of the hearings were sitting in Lidcombe Coroner's Court on Thursday. Autumn, you make some good points. 9:55pm Nov 4, 2022 NOW William Tyrrell's foster mum not guilty of lying to crime commission Couch destroys car in Sydney Protester glues hand to artwork in Parliament House Couple to face court today charged with the murder and torture of baby Survivor speaks after former drama teacher jailed Huge winter cruise season expected I want to have a look at it when I get time. Her language has told us on a number of occasions she wasnt. NO MORE SILENCE.". "Melissa is asking herself (and her audience) , how do I make this narrative plausible? (con't). This caller does not want to be psychologically "alone" with the information. From a reportage by Nine News Australia about day two of the inquest into Williams disappearance (apparently the foster mum told one of the neighbors that William had hit his head): () today it was the foster mothers turn to relive the search for the three-year-old. For William Tyrrell's loved ones, the battle to find him was not limited by only a small amount of evidence, but by changes of leadership in the NSW Police Force. What is interesting is that Melissa introduces the word murderer. OT: Karlie Guse"Were coming up on ten hours (breathless) and nows the part where Im saying I have to do something because weve had CHP fly over, weve had the, Inyo County, Inyo Mono County Sher-, um, Sheriffs flying over, er, ah. William was three years old when he vanished and the foster parents were renovating their Sydney house with a bedroom designated for the boy in their 'forever home'. The foster mother dialled Triple-0 within 20 minutes and police took six minutes to arrive. But none are so omnipresent as William Tyrrell, who went missing from the front yard of his foster grandmothers home in Kendall, on the New South Wales mid-north coast, on September 12, 2014. She made sure that question was answered before it could ever be asked. Did something happen to his head that is related to his disappearance? His foster parents are reported to be persons of interest in the case, December 15, 2021: Police reveal a bone fragment of unknown origin has been found in the search ahead, and are planning to wrap up the search by the end of the week, By This isnt conclusive but it does show a change in her perception. Also you mentioned how they finished the statement with it. And then she was, like, can we go to bed? The sentence would be fine said as with my mum and daughter, the listener would not be confused with that, and we would be none the wiser. By not answering, she shows sensitivity to that question as well. hear. Ive read the foster mother and/or Nanna had gone inside to make a cup of tea. He [wouldnt] go far.The fathers answer has problems with the order of events we see he says he I arrived back, I was on my way back and then I`d arrived back.Id arrived back [and been asked] if William was with me This is very vague information. William Tyrrell vanished in 2014 dressed in his Spider-Man suit. Flooding?Environmental conditions: Does the missing person suffer from adult autism, or has mental retardation? I think the foster parents quickly came up with the scenario of a kidnapper to move suspicion away from themselves. He was roaring, eeehm, and then, ehm, . If the blame isnt moved away then the guilt must be dealt with, and the parent must say I am responsible for my childs death. Did she quickly realize she didnt want to and say other daughter instead? The language points to it clearly. Maybe because that would be a direct lie? And, so, we ended up back in the living room with her brothers for a little bit. Thursdays charge is the latest in a string of recent developments linked to the investigation. Law enforcement believes Melissa and Zac's story. I`m being as strong as I can considering the situation. The foster mum said to the media that William was pretending to be a lion. The would be - does she put it that way because she doesnt know Williams height? So much sensitivity, so much negative language, a need to convince, unique words, the list goes on and on. What happened to William?RoaringState parkShaved headState parkRoaringYou would see itFreckleIf hair parted on the leftSpiderman OutfitHas she "disguised" William and sold him?Hair is differentOutfit (dressed up/dressed differently)"Other daughter"---Is William dressed/disguised as a girlWearing WigHair differentParted different so can't see freckleFreckles on face covered with makeup?Was roaringSpiderman OUtfitDeorr---cowboy boots. She left in her jeans, um, and a t shirt, so (breathless) Im putting out there and, just go for it, everybody help me out here. Laws is a town situated south of Chalfant at the base of the mountains. Bleeding?? So therefore both didn't get any sentence, this is normal ways for courthouses here in Europe. Even regarding the mark on the head, the operator asked about any distinguishing features, and the foster mother gave her one. Karlie may be dead but she wants her story to survive, or, maybe the facade of the story so there is no legal trouble and public judgment for Melissa and Zac. Cologne, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Monthly Weather | AccuWeather We see negative language with the use of I wasn`t and I didnt and also self-censoring I just, it didn't cross my mind.There are two references to hanging given in the statement. I see nothingI tell you what I find interesting Autumn, the number of times the Mother uses the word just throughout the Police interview. The court heard the foster mother had her father's grave photographed by a stranger and posted on social media. Being a foster child is admirable (if you survive it !!!!) Perhaps the third just means that she compares (1) the entire situation simply going away (i.e. Why not say: sitting on the patio. Operator: OK, alright, we'll send police to see you at Benaroon Drive in Kendall ( Foster Mother: inaudible) we'll also get um, the message broadcasted to all the cars to keep a look out for him as well OK? When Melissa was asked if she harmed Karlie she replied, Are you kidding me? She then describes her mothers property and reports Weve. I believe Casey Anthony said something like I feel shes really close. Karlie Lain Guse is missingstill. This sensitivity could be due to knowingly associating with suspicious persons. I am absolutely loving how you guys are solving this crime. His biological parents, whose names have since been suppressed by the inquest into William's disappearance, suffered baseless accusations. Funny you are trying to shut me down because you don't like my opinion so who is egotistical and rude? Thats weird. Maybe that is a strategy though, because the biological parents might use such signs to instigate or bolster a claim for damages. Thanks General! Missing boy William Tyrrell's doomed life - News.com.au And, I was like, yeah, and she was like, well can you come sleep with me? And, Im putting this out there because, um, it's going on 10 hours that shes been missing and I want to put this on blast because I dont think shes out in the desert. Spiderman is more of a boy thing. The coroner orders an urgentprobe into the final image that was taken on the day William vanished as metadata suggests the picture may have been taken 118 minutes earlier than originally thought. You have no way of knowing if there are NO well shafts in an entire state park or in that part of Australia.It makes no sense that they would be playing a roaring game with him if they are not even looking at him.Please bear in mind she is looking at the TOP of William's head in her mind. I think it would be fair to say though that most people would realise that if they said my daughter was high on drugs, acting weird and vanished they may not meet with a sympathetic response.We have the misspelled nwver (never) when hasnt or didnt could have been used. The second just could mean that she had an inclination to make her actual knowledge of where he is, () [etc. She feels William is contaminated? 2-min read. He screamed/roared once and then fell silent. could find them? I love you all, everybody please watch. She didnt take her cell phone. No. : William doesn't move or speak anymore). In that case you would walk around (as the foster mother repeatedly says) the car and wonder where he had gone.Adrian, if it was indeed a car accident youre the one who nailed it by drawing attention to screaming halt, the foster father mentioning getting out of the car and William not even crossing the street by himself, etc. http://statement-analysis.blogspot.com/2014/02/missing-persons-and-past-tense-verbs_5.html-David. In addition: the foster parents dont show any signs of anger towards the alleged kidnapper(s). To the south of Bishop are the Black Mountains (Black is the opposite of White). They discussed what they might have to do, including move from their home, change jobs and take steps to change their identity. She was supposed to be at a football game. William Tyrrell was three years old when he disappeared. A detective has told a court he thinks Tyrrell's foster mother knows where the missing boy is. Thanks again for your explanation. Three-year-old William vanished on September 12, 2014 while outside his foster grandmother's Kendall, NSW home. Melissa by saying murderer introduces a type of harm which is connected to death.If Karlie has run away (which I doubt) Melissa could of interpreted the question as an accusation that she slapped her or punished her which may of led to her running away. At least in my gut every day, stronger and stronger, I know we`re going to see Caylee. 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I dont recall the context unfortunately. But the most interesting part of the above quote is yet to come. Autumn. She did not get the number plates, because the cars were not significant to her at that time she said tearily. Michael, yes, I had heard of "The boy in the box"-case but avoided looking into it because that title is so horrible. Zac said I swear to God and honest to God when talking about Karlie. Also: why does she add physical? and in her eyes when William failed to become a daughter she then saw him as "bad" or evil.The father leaving the house to get a better signal on his phone (prior to William's disappearance) is exactly like the Deorr Kuntz case where the father left the area to get a better cell signal. Police have identified hundreds of persons of interest in the years since, but no-one has ever been charged. Maybe she wanted to say my husband? When there is suspected drug use, the missing child is further marginalized. The foster mother had intended taking family photos of William placing a drawing on Opa's grave, which is in Kendall cemetery on a ridge above the Benaroon Drive house. "His words are riddled with negative language. I wonder if she is recalling that Karlie appeared awake because she died with her eyes open? I just spoke to the sergeant, and they are at a dead end. The foster mother, now 56, was at the home with her own mother with William and his sister when the boy is believed to have disappeared. I cant figure it out. February 19- Homicide detectives take over the case and say it's likely William was abducted. She did not want it known that they were foster children. The last time that I [spoke] to her was 5:30. If you are able to speak to someone, cant you see them as well? It was a poignant gift that triggered an eerie silence throughout the courtroom and tears from police, a former homicide detective, lawyers, reporters and those who loved William Tyrrell. Did she wh-where, I just don't know. If she does it would open up a whole new line of enquiry.Adrian. Someone asked what I meant and I clarified. That's not what she said however: its all these authorities flying and having flown over that make her (say she) want(s) to act.
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